qos: (Not Well Behaved)
qos ([personal profile] qos) wrote2009-10-19 05:17 am

Apparently This Needs to be Said

I strongly object to any and all terms which characterize women's bodies and beings as being "less", with being a failure -- especially when explicitly contrasted with warrior culture. I particularly object to women's genitalia being used in this way. Make any case you like criticizing the current state of our culture (or anything else), but do not use women, women's sexuality, or femininity to characterize what you think is wrong.


Criticizing individual women is as valid as criticizing individual men, of course. My objection is using the "idea" of women, of feminininty, as inherently derrogatory.

[identity profile] veronica-milvus.livejournal.com 2009-10-19 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
What I hate the most is the description of feisty women as "having balls". Like, only macho men can be brave?

+1

[identity profile] 9thmoon.livejournal.com 2009-10-19 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You know I have a thing for war movies, and the kind of machismo soldiers are supposed to display typically involves calling each other by the names of feminine body parts or otherwise making reference to girls, sissies, etc., and I seethe inside every single time. It is a real part of the culture, so I can't really blame the writers for using that kind of language, but I don't use it myself and get upset when people I know use it.

[identity profile] athenian-abroad.livejournal.com 2009-10-19 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
May I add that I object to characterizations which value men's bodies chiefly as instruments of violence and intimidation? (And "protection," by the way, is just a euphemism for "violence and intimidation directed at somebody other than me.")

Not disagreeing with your point at all, of course. But I do want to challenge the notion that we can cleanly separate out "good" warrior culture from "bad" warrior culture and somehow just keep the good bits. I don't know of this ever having been accomplished outside of romantic* fiction. Perhaps the whole enterprise of celebrating violence and intimidation (sometimes euphemized as "strength") is rotten to the core.


* Note: using "romance" in the technical sense -- say, Chanson De Roland or Morte d'Arthur.

[identity profile] mankycat.livejournal.com 2009-10-19 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
My key point about male vs. female toughness (or genitilial superiority) is giving birth. Seriously! "Weaker sex"... As if!

(Anonymous) 2009-10-31 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
"Dragon Kindred of the Nine Nations and your reference elsewhere to the Annunaki have clinched it"

I do not understand what has caused you issue regarding the above referrences. You must not have issue with the Annunaki when you are a priestess for a Sister of the Annunaki. Innana is a Summerian Goddess. The Summerian Gods/Goddess are the Annunaki.

I came to your site for your interrests magnetized me, and your acknowledgement or announcement that you are a priestess of those that are my kinds Ancestors. Know if you have true issue with my kind that I am not the only one that is watching your threads. I am only one that is verbal in regard to my Watch and I enjoy communicating with those whom show an affinity toward the Ancient ways as you have regarded.